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Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time: The Historical Jesus and the Heart of Contemporary Faith
Marcus J. Borg

HarperOne, 1995 - 160 pages

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I gained much from reading this book!

I am glad I read this book. I think it has helped to redirect my search for God and to help me rebuild my faith in Him, so that I move from a fearful relationship with an angry Supreme Master to one with a loving Supreme Parent.

I first read the Bible cover-to-cover on my own as a youngster. This was probably not a good thing, as I mostly came away with an impression of an Angry God. And I certainly was in no position to understand at the tender age of 11 the cultural background of the world of the Hebrews or Jesus.

The trouble is that in some ways reading about the life of Christ is a bit like reading a mystery. Sure you can read the book again, but you already know whodunit the next time you go back to it, and having that knowledge changes the way you see things from then on. "Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time" has clarified for me the difference between pre-Easter and post-Easter Jesus. Before this when I reread the Gospels and looked over what Jesus said or did prior to his death and resurrection, I looked at it as though He was the post-Easter Godly Jesus the entire time, that He was always God right from the get-go. Now I am looking at Him more in the sense of His humanity as it was recorded in the first 3 gospels. When I stop to think about it, I expect He was a pretty normal kid, and I am not sure that He really saw Himself as God as that point waiting around to be worshipped. Rather I do think He was very much a man constantly in touch with His Father, so I am giving more consideration to the example He set where he showed me how to live and how to be in touch with the Father all the time. (Or at least try to be.)

Also, as a woman who was raised in a Baptist church, I was always hurt and angry at the way women seemed to be second class citizens, and folks always seemed to back up the reason for this with Scripture. But Borg's book showed me that there was a possibility that God has a feminine side (His Wisdom or Sophia) and that this idea of femininity was dropped in translations made from the Greek texts. Perhaps that does not mean much to some, but to a girl who heard most of her life how everything was Eve's (and therefore women in general) fault, it meant a lot to me.

I also appreciated Borg's information about purity codes and particularly about how Jesus confronted the Pharisees about their mile long lists of who was ok and who was not and how badly they treated those on the "not ok" list. I can see that this type of thinking is still present in many churches today, which is too bad. A relationship with God should not be about following rules, rules, and more rules but rather about his Grace. I wish I had known this years ago, so that I might have actually _felt_ God before now.

So I would recommend this book to people who feel that they are just going through the motions at church (or have given up on church altogether) but could use some fresh insight to get their search for God jumpstarted again. It's also good for folks who are just starting out on the path of Biblical scholarship. However, people who believe the Bible is inerrant may be uncomfortable with some of the ideas presented in this book. It doesn't mean they should not pick it up, but they should be forewarned that they may find their beliefs tested.


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Dr. Borg is a gifted writer and loving Spirit filled person

?Before reading Marcus Borg's masterpiece "Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time" I was a self proclaimed agnostic. After reading it I realized I wasn't an agnostic, but an atheist to the God of conservative Christianity. Borg carefully and compassionately details another form of Christianity, a Christianity centered on love of neighbor, love of self, love of intellect and love of the God in all the world. This book teaches that you don't need to check your brain at the church
door, that you don't need to believe in a Santa Claus like God, that you can be a Christian and love your neighbor whether yellow black or white, whether gay or left or right.

Simply put, "Meeting Jesus Again for the First Time" is nothing short of an amazing read that can transform not just your view of Christianity, but even your life. I ought to know; after
reading it in 1996 I started attending a church. Today I am writing you from the campus of a progressive Christian seminary 2000 miles from that church where I am entering my last year of
studies. From agnostic to pastoral prospect, pretty powerful stuff prompted by Borg's thoughtful Spirit-filled writing.

I can't promise that this book will change your life, but it sure changed mine. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in finding the loving heart of Christianity amidst the
noisy discordant clamor of those on the right who claim Christianity means having a hardened heart. This is an excellent book written by a gifted writer and loving Spirit-filled person.


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Define Irony

Jesus, who passionately advocated and died for the idea of Grace-which is defined intrinsically as "unconditional" love and worthiness-has been placed in the center of a religion that uses him as the ultimate "condition" for which Grace may be received.

It is sad that the ignorant crucified Jesus 2000 years ago, but it is shockingly ironic when you realize his original message is re-crucified on a daily basis by an invented theology based on fear and control. Jesus spoke of Life, but the current agreed on theology cares more about his death and your AFTER-life, while his beautiful message of the Kindom of Heaven "at hand" and "within you" is completely ignored.

The message of the current Christian theology is not just a little off track, but it's the polar opposite of Jesus' message of surrendering the conditioned rational mind to the Wisdom in your heart. Christian Theology wants you to surrender. It wants you to surrender to its dogmatic point of view. You can't distribute Grace as a reward for surrendering to a written dogma. Grace comes from intuition, through the heart. Grace has to be experienced, and it can only be experienced with our feelings and awareness. Once you try to describe Grace you have left experience and moved into thinking.

Once you make God an object of thought you solidify Him into a point of view that creates opposition, conflict and suffering. There is a familiar practice of crystalizing the unexplainable infinite into a explainable finite structure. Its called idolitry. Here the idol is a fluid mental construct rather that a stone statue. When the solution for man's suffering contributes to the major source of his suffering, how long must we flounder in ignorance until we wake up and do something about it?

Why can't we understand that morality is not the goal to be achieved, but rather the byproduct of recognizing our innate worth?

Why do we continue to put up with an insane doctrine that defines humanity as innately worthless, which contributes more to self-rejection than to salvation.

Marcus Borg and others like him are taking the baby steps that will lead to the true resurrection of Christ, and the beautiful perceptual Kingdom of Heaven that Jesus envisioned.

Thank you Marcus Borg for your courage and honesty in writing a book that would have brought you a more ominous fate than just the well intentioned yet ignorant responses I see posted here by those of Faith.



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Informative book about the historical Jesus

I actually decided to read Borg's books after reading some of John Crossan's books where Borg was referenced. I thought the set-up of this book was extremely helpful in illustrating what Borg was discussing. However, I think I had hoped this would be more of a "heart-felt" novel. I understand Borg had to get in all the historical information about Jesus (and he did an incredible job at that) but I had hoped he would speak of Jesus on more of an emotional level. I felt as I was more of an outsider looking in on the life of Jesus rather than a comrade right next to him. And perhaps that is the effect Borg wanted. All in all, a great book with great information. What I found most interesting in this whole book was the link between Jesus and Sophia (wisdom). Borg makes an excellent point to contrast the "Son of God" image of Jesus by saying Jesus was personified as Wisdom- a feminine term in Greek. He does this to stress the many metaphors used when defining Jesus and says we must not take them literally. All in all a great read with great information.


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Come home, Dr. Borg

Marcus Borg is the most sensible and sympathetic of the Jesus Seminar scholars I have read. I found many worthwhile insights in this book: the way he links the Gospels and Paul's teaching on grace (though Jesus and Paul also call us to radical moral purity, and Borg sometimes makes meaning slave to etymology), his discussion of meta-narratives, parables, and aphorisms, and the contrast between "conventional wisdom" and "unconventional" wisdom, for example.

But the criteria by which Borg judges whether or not a given teaching really is from Jesus are shaky. Does the "Gospel" of Thomas have anything of value to say about the life of Jesus? I doubt it. Why does Borg assume that only material from the Christian "tradition" before 60 A.D. can be trusted? If I were to write about the atomic bombing of Nagasaki, at a chronological distance equivalent to 93 AD, I could easily find eyewitnesses. Why should it have been so much harder for the Gospel writers in 70 AD?

Borg's chief weakness may be his habit of working alternatives into what look like false dichotomies, or trichotomies: holiness versus compassion, individual versus political virtue, "belief" versus "action" versus "becoming." (Why not all three? "Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength!") Borg's method of exegesis is often to exagerrate one element in Jesus' teaching, then make that a principle by which to exclude other elements.

Borg identifies JS pronouncements with the "scholarly consensus." But many first rank scholars (Wright, Hays, Johnson, Meier, Jenkins, and others) find the JS way of working quite flawed.

Borg writes of "pre-critical" and "post-critical" naivitee; but he shows a great deal of what might be called "unidirectional" naivitee. He explains how, as a young man, he discovered Biblical criticism and lost his faith. He later recovered a faith, which, like John Blofeld's faith in the bodhissatva Guan Yin, seemed to have "nothing to do with belief." The problem is, while he learned to treat the Gospels critically, his seminary professors did not seem to teach him to treat their own ideas the same way. Thus, he makes little mention of another kind of Christian that might be called the "post-critical believer" -- the Christian who has read Borg, Crossan, Pagels, Mack, and more radical critics, and come to the conclusion that their methods and conclusions are badly mistaken -- not on theological, but on historical grounds.

We post-critical believers can only feel marginalized and a bit ghostly, not finding ourselves among Borg's typology of believers.

Borg also attempts to tie the radical compassion of Jesus to his alleged identity as a "spirit person" who experienced mystical unity with God: "There is an intrinsic connection between the boundary-shattering experience of Spirit and the boundary-shattering ethics of compassion."

As a student of world religions, I think not. "All we shamans know that the spirits are happiest when we kill people," one Yamonamo Indian is quoted as saying; and certainly the most active spiritism can coexist with the most brutal denigration of women. East Indian advedic gurus and tantric Buddhists often rigidly oppress their followers, and a rich heritage of mystical science did not prevent India fromo sinking into a sinkhole of caste and gender oppression. In fact, the true source of reform and breaking down of social boundaries has far more often come from a strict monotheism -- among the Jewish prophets, Chinese sages like Confucius, the anti-slave movements in the Middle Ages and the Modern West, and even in India and Japan.

In the end, as Dr. Borg shares his own story, he seems rather lost to me, following a "Jesus" who is a worthy enough sage, but incapable of inspiring the joyous songs he recalls with tears from his childhood. I feel for him. I think he is quite mistaken about the Gospels. The more I study world religions, the more I am persuaded that Jesus is the Lord of life, who died for the sins of the world, and rose from the dead. I think an honest assessment of the evidence leaves that as the most realistic assessment. I am tempted to echo Dr. Borg's own words, and say, "Dr. Borg, come home, and meet Jesus again, for the first time."

author, Jesus and the Religions of Man / christthetao@msn.com


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